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. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," gabby giffords returns to deliver a passionate appeal for gun laws. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it's will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> hillary clinton's exit from the world stage, but for how long? >> what do you think didn't go well, what went wrong? >> well, benghazi went wrong. >> when that phone call rings at 3:00 in the morning, who's best prepared to answer it in 2016? >> well, that is to be decided by the american people. >> but will her health be a deciding factor? >> i'm healthy enough and my stamina is great enough. i'll be fully recovered to do whatever i choose to do. >> massachusetts governor deval patrick chooses his former chief of staff to fill john kerry's seat. it's the first time two african-americans will be in the senate statement. and john kerry about to be famous on the world stage, but even in boston, sometimes not
. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," gabby giffords returns to deliver a passionate appeal for gun laws. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it's will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> hillary clinton's exit from the world stage, but for how long? >> what do...
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chris cillizza, could anybody do a better job than gabby giffords to bring home the powerful impact of the gun debate and, in her case, the magazines? >> you know, andrea, it was incredibly sort of personal and touching, and i think even more so for those members of congress who know that she was at a constituent service event when this happened, that it could have been any one of them, and it happened to be her. i did think it was telling senator durbin from illinois, apologize former congressman giffords had already left, but apologized to mark kelly this hearing wasn't happening two years ago in the wake of her being shot, but i do think it's a telling sign that we tend to, newtown may have changed this dynamic, but we tend to have a huge discussion about guns and gun control and the need to regulate them, then that discussion goes away quickly. the question is, is newtown different, does gabby giffords help keep that momentum up with her testimony today? we're going to find out as this proposal president obama made goes through congress. >> ruth marcus, i wanted to show you and chr
chris cillizza, could anybody do a better job than gabby giffords to bring home the powerful impact of the gun debate and, in her case, the magazines? >> you know, andrea, it was incredibly sort of personal and touching, and i think even more so for those members of congress who know that she was at a constituent service event when this happened, that it could have been any one of them, and it happened to be her. i did think it was telling senator durbin from illinois, apologize former...
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kelly is the husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who survived an assassination attempt. coming up why kelly is saying this is not about the second amendment. >>> bp has been ordered to pay $4 billion in criminal fines and penalties for the 2010 gulf oil spill. a federal judge in new orleans approved the plea deal yesterday. it's the largest criminal penalty in u.s. history. the company faces billions of dollars more in civil penalties. >>> the state of california is expected to fine chevron today for the richmond refinery explosion last august. that fire sent heavy smoke in the air. making some 15,000 people sick. cal osha oversees -- show on paid $10 million so far. the company hopes to return the refinery up to speed by march. >>> time now 5:04. new this morning in less than two months from right now, toll takers on the golden gate bridge will be replaced. ktvu claudine wong is at the golden gate bridge toll plaza right now where a new automated is is being tested today. good morning, claudine. >> reporter: that is right, dave, good morning. testing is under way right
kelly is the husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who survived an assassination attempt. coming up why kelly is saying this is not about the second amendment. >>> bp has been ordered to pay $4 billion in criminal fines and penalties for the 2010 gulf oil spill. a federal judge in new orleans approved the plea deal yesterday. it's the largest criminal penalty in u.s. history. the company faces billions of dollars more in civil penalties. >>> the state of california is...
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giffords, a victim of gun violence. and is expected to speak sass well. >>> new orleans is beefing up security ahead of sunday's big game. 1300 federal agents and 3600 extra state troopers have been added. today, nfl officials will hold a news conference with homeland security secretary janet napolitano. and happy birthday to marcus mumford of mumford and sons. he tushs 26 today. old man. >>> all day long you can stay on top of the very latest developments on those stories and the best political analysis on msnbc. and tonight, be sure to watch "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >>> and, finally, here's a look at what's coming up later this morning on the "today" show. microsoft founder bill gates opens up about his charity, family and the future. and liza minnelli and cast of cabaret reunite to celebrate the film's 40th anniversary. >>> now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, sports and more. i'm richard lui along with bill karins. thanks for watching "early today." this, your first stop of the day t
giffords, a victim of gun violence. and is expected to speak sass well. >>> new orleans is beefing up security ahead of sunday's big game. 1300 federal agents and 3600 extra state troopers have been added. today, nfl officials will hold a news conference with homeland security secretary janet napolitano. and happy birthday to marcus mumford of mumford and sons. he tushs 26 today. old man. >>> all day long you can stay on top of the very latest developments on those stories and...
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giffords. before testimony began, giffords made a plea for action. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> kelly followed, arguing for restrictions on magazine clips, enhanced mental health care, and advanced background checks. >> we're both gun owners, and we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it very seriously, but rights demand responsibility, and this right does not extend to terrorists, it does not extend to criminals, and it does not extend to the mentally ill. >> while wayne lapierre struck a posture less combative than previous press conferences, his views remain questionable, calling for an immediate blanket of security at schools, lapierre dismissed universal background checks, saying criminals would never submit to them. chairman leahy pressed lapierre on background checks and whether and how the nra head had changed his mind on closing gun show loopholes. >> should we have mandatory bac
giffords. before testimony began, giffords made a plea for action. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> kelly followed, arguing for restrictions on magazine clips, enhanced mental health care, and advanced background checks. >> we're both gun owners, and we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it very seriously, but rights demand responsibility, and this right does not extend to...
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. >> glen reynolds said ask the question about the courage that gabby giffords is asking to be shown. glen said ask that question of democrats in red states that are running in 2014? are they going to have a political courage to do what gabby giffords thinks is the right thing on background checks, on high-capacity magazines, on assault weapons? >> i think it is unlikely that the congress will pass a ban on assault weapons. >> what about these democrats? how hard is it for the moderate democrats? >> speaking specifically of those democrats. i think they will have a hard time voting for a ban on assault weapons. i think willie's point about the background checks and the almost universal support makes it a much easier argument to pass. and two -- >> what about the high-capacity magazines? >> then on these big magazines, i think there's an agreement, a compromise, to be made for those who want to shoot and use those magazines at shooting clubs and while some may hunt with that, keep them there. and if you want to take them out, you have to register in a more serious and comprehensive way
. >> glen reynolds said ask the question about the courage that gabby giffords is asking to be shown. glen said ask that question of democrats in red states that are running in 2014? are they going to have a political courage to do what gabby giffords thinks is the right thing on background checks, on high-capacity magazines, on assault weapons? >> i think it is unlikely that the congress will pass a ban on assault weapons. >> what about these democrats? how hard is it for the...
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gifford and especially mark kelly, her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he talked about people grow og up with rifles. a 10-year-old receiving a rifle from his father. that there is not the demonizing of the other side, of people who have firearms as part of their family and tradition. i thought that show a certain maturity and i hope a political awareness. >> woodruff: we know the president is going to keep talking about this. he is due to go to minnesota on monday to talk about this, the gun issue again. david, you mentioned immigration. there was, you the bipartisan group of senators come out this week with the plan and the next day the president rolled out his plan. so you
gifford and especially mark kelly, her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he...
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gifford and especially mark kelly her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he talked about people grow og up with rifles. a 10-year-old receiving a rifle from his father. that there is not the demonizeing of the other side of people who have firearms as part of their family and tradition. i thought that show a certain maturity and i hope a political awareness. >> woodruff: we know the president is going to keep talking about this. he is due to go to minnesota on monday to talk about this the gun issue again. david, you mentioned immigration. there was you the bipartisan group of senators come out this week with the plan and the next day the president rolled out his plan. so you d
gifford and especially mark kelly her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he...
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even more dramatic, gabby giffords labored yet passion nal plea for passion. >> speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> reporter: giffords is an advocate and so is her husband mark kelly. >> a strong supporter of the second amendment as anyone on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> reporter: at the other end of the table, the other star witness with a very different perspective. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranged criminals: none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. we'll start them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> order. >> reporter: the line to get into this
even more dramatic, gabby giffords labored yet passion nal plea for passion. >> speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> reporter: giffords is an advocate and so is her husband mark kelly. >> a strong supporter of the second amendment as anyone on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she...
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former congresswoman gabby giffords shock at the hearing -- smoke a the hearing calling for -- spoke at the hearing calling for lawmakers to do something. kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom. >> reporter: hi, dave. gabrielle giffords just spoke. it was very brief. we're gonna take a look at the hearing. gab -- gabrielle giffords stepped away from her my my row phone. five people are scheduled to testifying including mark kelly. giffords and kelly have been pushing for tighter gun control and they are getting help from dianne feinstein. also testifying today, wayne la pierre. he wants lawmakers to stop pushing law restrictions and deal with the mental health and school issues. gun owners fear their second amendment rights could be violated. we'll continue listening in on this hearing. we'll have testimony for you when i see you next hour. kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> later this morning, two conservative action groups are holding a news conference right outside of senator dianne feinstein's office showing their opposition to the assault weapons band. the
former congresswoman gabby giffords shock at the hearing -- smoke a the hearing calling for -- spoke at the hearing calling for lawmakers to do something. kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom. >> reporter: hi, dave. gabrielle giffords just spoke. it was very brief. we're gonna take a look at the hearing. gab -- gabrielle giffords stepped away from her my my row phone. five people are scheduled to testifying including mark kelly. giffords and kelly have been pushing for...
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. >>> we all remember gabby giffords testimony on wednesday, but the gun lobby also had a woman to speak for her side of the gun debate and she made quite an impression. >> you are not a woman stuck in her house having to defend her children not able to leave her child, not able to go seek safety on the phone with 911, and she cannot get the police there fast enough to protect her child. and she's not used to being in a firefight. an assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies in her home becomes a defense weapon, and the peace of mind that a woman has as she's facing three, four, five violent attackers, intruders in her home with her children screaming in the background, the peace of mind that she has knowing that she has a scary looking gun gives her more courage when she's fighting hardened, violent criminals. >> let's bring in msnbc contributor joy reid. so, joy, i want to ask you this question. if guns actually make women safer, then why does research suggest that actually women experience more violent deaths in states where there are more guns? >> right. >> wh
. >>> we all remember gabby giffords testimony on wednesday, but the gun lobby also had a woman to speak for her side of the gun debate and she made quite an impression. >> you are not a woman stuck in her house having to defend her children not able to leave her child, not able to go seek safety on the phone with 911, and she cannot get the police there fast enough to protect her child. and she's not used to being in a firefight. an assault weapon in the hands of a young woman...
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if gabby giffords were armed that day, would she have shot the man and saved all the lives and with the headlines have been different? that would've made a big difference. say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian, california, democrat. caller: how are you? i did not hear your question? host: we have been asking have your views changed? caller: the question is, it has strengthened my views on gun control. we know that the president is traveling to minnesota today, where they do have. i do not know all the laws in minnesota. i do have relatives there. the president's agenda is to strengthen the background checks, also, a ban on assault weapons, and improve the mental health care system. i have been in law enforcement many years. the men i have worked around, some have never had to use their service revolvers. we
if gabby giffords were armed that day, would she have shot the man and saved all the lives and with the headlines have been different? that would've made a big difference. say if the guy that mark kelly talked about, he was a hair's breadth from shooting an innocent person. the fact is the guy held both of those people on the ground, the assailant and the innocent person, and kept him from reloading the glock with another 33-round clip. did that make a difference? host: diane is in julian,...
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gabby giffords was in tucson at a public event with their constituents. there was someone in the parking lot who had a weapon. that individual nearly killed the wrong person because he thought the person that was holding down the shooter was a perpetrator of the crime and he nearly killed a good samaritan. having more guns is not the answer. have think more guns in schools is not the answer. law enforcement are opposed to that. host: our guest has a master's from george washington university. she was with the human rights campaign for 11 years. he spent much of your career on gay and lesbian issues. what did she think of the president's inaugural speech? guest: i thought it was amazing. the message he shared about, this is our time and this is our challenge. for me, the most memorable line was way talk about the marchers from seneca to selma to stonewall in such a clear and simple phrase he captured the struggle of some many of us, the civil rights challenge of so many of us. we need to engage in the conversation. host: what do you expect from the congres
gabby giffords was in tucson at a public event with their constituents. there was someone in the parking lot who had a weapon. that individual nearly killed the wrong person because he thought the person that was holding down the shooter was a perpetrator of the crime and he nearly killed a good samaritan. having more guns is not the answer. have think more guns in schools is not the answer. law enforcement are opposed to that. host: our guest has a master's from george washington university....
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in the case of gabby gifford when the guy had to swap out a new magazine he fumbled and he was able and an older woman reached up and grabbed his hand. all of them would've been dead had he not had to change that magazine, had there been 30 or 40 clips. same way with aurora. a guy had 100 shells in the magazine. fortunately it jammed. it jammed enough that it gave time for folks to get there and in fact save lives. >> sreenivasan: back in connecticut this morning, the first meeting of the sandy hook advisory commission took place. connecticut's mocratic governor, dannel malloy, has tasked the panel with making recommendations on school safety, mental health and gun violence prevention. >> we need to develop a common sense way to regulate access to guns. we need to make sure that our mental health professionals have access to resources and information they need to get treatment to those who need it. we must make sure the public has better information about what to do when they suspect someone might be battling mental illness. >> sreenivasan: still, most of the focus is likely to remain a
in the case of gabby gifford when the guy had to swap out a new magazine he fumbled and he was able and an older woman reached up and grabbed his hand. all of them would've been dead had he not had to change that magazine, had there been 30 or 40 clips. same way with aurora. a guy had 100 shells in the magazine. fortunately it jammed. it jammed enough that it gave time for folks to get there and in fact save lives. >> sreenivasan: back in connecticut this morning, the first meeting of the...
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gabby giffords in conflict, dick durbin versus wayne lapierre and suggested just how hard the debate will be. giffords and her husband, mark kelly, made an emotional appeal to congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales. >> too many children are dying. too many children you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> but the national rifle association chair, wayne lapierre, came out aggressively against background checks, arguing that the legislation which has the best chance in congress will do nothing to stem gun violence. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> we'll stop them from the original purchase. you miss that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> let there be order! >> and lapierre tried to turn the debate back on the administration. >> drug dealers with guns, gangs with guns, and felons with guns. they're sim
gabby giffords in conflict, dick durbin versus wayne lapierre and suggested just how hard the debate will be. giffords and her husband, mark kelly, made an emotional appeal to congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales. >> too many children are dying. too many children you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> but the national...
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in the case of gabby gifford when the guy had to swap out a new magazine he fumbled and he was able and an older woman reached up and grabbed his hand. all of them would've been dead had he not had to change that magazine, had there been 30 or 40 clips. same way with aurora. a guy had 100 shells in the magazine. fortunately it jammed. it jammed enough that it gave time for folks to get there and in fact save lives. >> sreenivasan: back in connecticut this morning, the first meeting of the sandy hook advisory commission took place. connecticut's democratic governor, dannel malloy has tasked the panel with making recommendations on school safety, mental health and gun violence prevention. >> we need to develop a common sense way to regulate access to guns. we need to make sure that our mental health professionals have access to resources and information they need to get treatment to those who need it. we must make sure the public has better information about what to do when they suspect someone might be battling mental illness. >> sreenivasan: still, most of the focus is likely to remain
in the case of gabby gifford when the guy had to swap out a new magazine he fumbled and he was able and an older woman reached up and grabbed his hand. all of them would've been dead had he not had to change that magazine, had there been 30 or 40 clips. same way with aurora. a guy had 100 shells in the magazine. fortunately it jammed. it jammed enough that it gave time for folks to get there and in fact save lives. >> sreenivasan: back in connecticut this morning, the first meeting of the...
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gabby gifford's husband, mark kelly, is also expected to testify at the hearing. >>> in trenton, new jersey, authorities are touting the haul of weapons now off the streets thanks to a gun buyback program, bringing in 2600 hand guns. someone even turned in a rocket launcher. the state paid out $324,000 for the weapons, no questions asked. >>> a federal court is upholding san francisco's new nudity ban, so keep it under wraps. a judge ruled the ordinance does not violate first amendment rights. activists challenged the rule arguing the right to strip down is a freedom of expression. the ban covers public areas across san francisco and goes into effect friday. >>> a memento from mickey mantle's baseball career. a special ring has been found. just 536 so-called career rings were made, one for each of his home runs. the one in question belonged to his youngest son and it was stolen from his home in texas in 2007 and resurfaced at a pawnshop in flint, michigan. an appraiser figured it was stolen. the police followed a trail to a guy already in custody for stealing another valuable from ma
gabby gifford's husband, mark kelly, is also expected to testify at the hearing. >>> in trenton, new jersey, authorities are touting the haul of weapons now off the streets thanks to a gun buyback program, bringing in 2600 hand guns. someone even turned in a rocket launcher. the state paid out $324,000 for the weapons, no questions asked. >>> a federal court is upholding san francisco's new nudity ban, so keep it under wraps. a judge ruled the ordinance does not violate first...
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mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and used to practice at an nra range. now they are taking on the powerful gun lobby. kelly tells cnn they support extensive gun control, including restricting high-capacity weapons, like the one used by giffords' shooter. >> he was taken down after unloading ten rounds in a magazine, then there would certainly be other people that didn't -- that died that day that would be alive today. >> reporter: as the nra's executive director, wayne lapierre is the defender of gun rights. his prepared testimony released by the nra sounds familiar warnings. law-eye biding gun owners will not take responsibility for criminals nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own. he will have avid defenders on the committee holding the hearing, like orrin hatch. >> well, after years of being pushed around, it's tough for them not to be combative. wayne lapierre is one of the nicest, kindest people you'll ever meet but he really does believe in
mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and used to practice at an nra range. now they are taking on the powerful gun lobby. kelly tells cnn they support extensive gun control, including restricting high-capacity weapons, like the one used by giffords' shooter. >> he was taken down after unloading ten rounds in a magazine, then there would certainly be other people that didn't -- that died that...
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. >> gabby giffords you could not help but feel emotion and she was speaking out. they own guns and they're doing exactly what they need to do and say exactly what needs to be said. >> final word with. >> i know nothing about football except for the super bowl that andy muller played football with jim harbaugh at university of michigan when i would sit in the stands with my family and andy is now an offensive coach for the ravens. >> you're sending a shout out. i love it. >> they're all in the family. >> a shout out to christine romans who is 25 today. bring in the cake! >> happy birthday! >> your birthday, happy birthday, christine. >> yeah! >> we wrap it up and be back here tomorrow morning of course. "cnn newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. see you now everybody. >> hi soledad and happy birthday christine. stories we're watching right now in the newsroom, trapped by rising water, rescuers in maryland struggle to save stranded drivers. the storm system they say killed two in the south. >> reporter: in adairsville you can see to the right of the funnel
. >> gabby giffords you could not help but feel emotion and she was speaking out. they own guns and they're doing exactly what they need to do and say exactly what needs to be said. >> final word with. >> i know nothing about football except for the super bowl that andy muller played football with jim harbaugh at university of michigan when i would sit in the stands with my family and andy is now an offensive coach for the ravens. >> you're sending a shout out. i love...
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you're in the front page of today's "wall street journal" talking to representatives gabby giffords has been, mark kelley. post a plea which is said to me children are dying, the time is now coming msi. be bold, be courageous. >> she said something needs to be done and they all agree with that. it's not that there's a great number of things to have been in measures will take him to do it not shooting and gun crime on the affaires, those steps are to be taken. it was a little bit like when the senator from connecticut had the statement from sandy hook. this statement was much like former congressman gifford's analysis in the not to be done. yes, something ought to be done. those of us who sat there during the hearing and the statistics i may disagree on what was the fact is, what can be done within the context of innocent americans. but we all agree on the goal and that's a policy discussion should be about. they should be about how you solve a problem. i don't think there is a lot of disagreement and problems are to be dealt with. [inaudible] on yesterday's morning joe, congressman scar
you're in the front page of today's "wall street journal" talking to representatives gabby giffords has been, mark kelley. post a plea which is said to me children are dying, the time is now coming msi. be bold, be courageous. >> she said something needs to be done and they all agree with that. it's not that there's a great number of things to have been in measures will take him to do it not shooting and gun crime on the affaires, those steps are to be taken. it was a little bit...
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as gabby giffords's has been yesterday mentioned, a thousand people so adjudicated have not been included on the system. one of the witnesses there yesterday was that please shoot of baltimore county who is an advocate of universal background checks. he didn't tensioned earlier in the week as governor said they are not in favor of putting the mentally ill into the system. .. would not have been able to buy the firearm he had been adjudicated. we think that and have been urging it for a long time. we think it ought to be done. we think the system needs additional funding and to be straight end out. it's operated efficiently and cleaned up. to take the system and throw millions of people in to it, as it exists today would be a serious error. >> we're going go next to myles benson, dan, free monday, robert, and laura. myles? >> would you put the two basic questions . >> i'll try. >> the second amendment talks about the -- [inaudible] the organization -- [inaudible] gun owners whistle blowing that sort of thing. how much is there to be done . >> sure, i would be happy to. our definition of th
as gabby giffords's has been yesterday mentioned, a thousand people so adjudicated have not been included on the system. one of the witnesses there yesterday was that please shoot of baltimore county who is an advocate of universal background checks. he didn't tensioned earlier in the week as governor said they are not in favor of putting the mentally ill into the system. .. would not have been able to buy the firearm he had been adjudicated. we think that and have been urging it for a long...
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in the column by shooting -- not columbine, but the gabby giffords shooting, the woman stepped in -- i heard that it was a woman today -- the guy changing of the clips gave the opportunity to grab the person. so if you can't get rid of the assault weapon, at least limit the efficiency of it by limiting the amount that can come out of it. what was your third part of the questioned? >> [inaudible] -- president's proposal. but, i mean, if you recall the nra came out a week after the newtown tragedy and said the only solution to a tragedy like this is if you've got a bad guy with a gun you need a good guy with a gun. you and i have had some discussions since newtown about some of this -- you have them in your testimony and i think we should absolutely take -- >> we give you a good example. we look at the shooting in new york at the empire state building. here's a situation where we had a shooter that brought in a swat team, probably the most qualified team to take out a shooter like this that shot nine pedestrians. myself, and i carry a gun and i am a victim of violent crime as you proba
in the column by shooting -- not columbine, but the gabby giffords shooting, the woman stepped in -- i heard that it was a woman today -- the guy changing of the clips gave the opportunity to grab the person. so if you can't get rid of the assault weapon, at least limit the efficiency of it by limiting the amount that can come out of it. what was your third part of the questioned? >> [inaudible] -- president's proposal. but, i mean, if you recall the nra came out a week after the newtown...
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second, more visible player, gabby giffords, the former congresswoman shot in arizona and her husband, mark phillips, say they're going to be much more aggressive about lobbying on capitol hill. they have a group with a super pac arm that's going to surf that public opinion you were just pointing to. and they describe themselves as gun-owning moderates. they're from the mountain west. but obviously have incredible moral authority on the gun issue. they're going on start using that more and more. mark phillips, her husband, tells "politico" in an interview that they're going to do whatever they can to build support for this legislation, even though as the moment house republicans are turning up their noses at it. >> hey, mike, also last night, speaking of republicans at the rnc meeting, louisiana governor bobby jindal had strong advice for his party. take a listen. >> today's conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget. the burgeoning deficits, the mammoth federal debt, the shortfall in our entitlement programs. we have seemed to have an
second, more visible player, gabby giffords, the former congresswoman shot in arizona and her husband, mark phillips, say they're going to be much more aggressive about lobbying on capitol hill. they have a group with a super pac arm that's going to surf that public opinion you were just pointing to. and they describe themselves as gun-owning moderates. they're from the mountain west. but obviously have incredible moral authority on the gun issue. they're going on start using that more and...
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doing stupid things and saying stupid things politically, going on facebook after gabby giffords was shot, talking about blood libel, one mistake after another. >> it wasn't just that one line. >> there were, willie geist, so many republicans that really did believe -- and i told them they were dead wrong -- they really believed the benghazi hearings, and i heard this when they were getting sworn in, saying benghazi is going to be the issue where we're really going to get the country to turn on barack obama and hillary clinton. hillary clinton killed them. and once again, a self-inflicted wound. you had a senator going out saying oh, she was just faking her tears. >> oh, my god. >> and we do that time and time and time again. it's not just policy. it's how we play the game. and we have been clumsy and stupid for too long now. >> sarah palin represented something to a lot of people. she was a proxy, i feel like, for conservatives, for republicans to fight the media, to fight democrats, to fight president obama in 2008. she was a way for many of them to say, look how they're treating h
doing stupid things and saying stupid things politically, going on facebook after gabby giffords was shot, talking about blood libel, one mistake after another. >> it wasn't just that one line. >> there were, willie geist, so many republicans that really did believe -- and i told them they were dead wrong -- they really believed the benghazi hearings, and i heard this when they were getting sworn in, saying benghazi is going to be the issue where we're really going to get the...